I agree with you Speedbird002, ships are the same
Well, said David. I'm new to Pinkfroot, so was reluctant to respond, felt I needed to earn my spurs, so to speak. Not everyone can afford sophisticated equipment and as you say youngster need to be involved/encouraged. We all had to start somewhere. I have found the diversity of subject and content to be most interesting. To lose that because of over stringent selection process would be a retrograde step. Whether it finds it's way to the apps is another matter.
I think you make some good points there but... (there's always a 'but', isn't there!)
The points made re putting off the newcomers and youngsters are well made. I have seen other sites where the rules are more and more rigidly enforced to the point where a site becomes a royal pain.
I am not sure about the accept without screening comment. I thought they were all screened upon uploading?
Re aircraft changes, special schemes etc being updated; isn't that down to the photos being uploaded?
I just uploaded a couple of photos from last June of American Airlines N780AN because I noticed the current crop of photos on the app are all in the old, shiny American Airlines livery but this aircraft has been repainted in the new AA colours. I expect that change will eventually filter out to the app. So, special schemes and repaints are down to the members contributing.
And of course, we have to consider the mods workload. If the screening is not up to the mark, that is probably down to the mods working their socks off on other things and for free. Perhaps we members could volunteer to help out there. I know I would be happy to do some of that if it will help.
Finally, as another has pointed out, let's not go down the route of that well known aviation photography site that will reject photos for the most flimsy of reasons. I think they are heading toward being an exclusive site, restricted to accepting photos only from those with deep pockets and therefore able to use top of the line kit and at exotic locations where the sun always shines!
Some very good points made all round in this discussion. Fuzzy dots in the sky, sloping horizons at sea and scenery that may include a ship/plane in one corner all make my rapidly diminishing hair bristle. Ditto over-exposure, under-exposure and randomly cropped aspect ratios. From my own perspective however, I'm a refugee from "that website" (there is actually more than one) and their arrogant, utterly unhelpful rejections I've received for what I regard as well prepared shots. I would hate to see that disease spread, particularly if it puts off youngsters and beginners.
I have observed that quite often the issue is not down to expensive kit but rather it is about what is done to a photo before uploading it. All that is required is a little effort and some freeware. Admittedly it wont save us from "fuzzy dots in the sky" but many of the other issues can be dealt with. I frequently download dodgy shots and clean them up just for the practice. The net result is that I have fixed up a number of shots that I would now be very proud to call my own.
By the same token I have also got some very nice results out of both my iPhone and a little Fuji, again through a bit of tidying up. It is an area I get quite animated about to the point where I put together a couple of "how to" articles on my page about it. Not sure if they ever get looked at these days but I tried. [AIRCRAFT] and [SHIPS].
I'd happily put my hand up to help approve photos.
Hmm. I have just seen some classic examples of what Darryl is talking about. At the time of writing, A6-EHJ is on approach to Heathrow. Clicking on this flight brings up some horror shows!
Well Done Darryl this is a discussion that need to be had if planefinder / shipfinder are to survive into the future especially with the competition in these areas. I feel there is plenty of scope between those sites seeking perfection and fuzzy / blurry dots in the sky. A few simple basic rules uniformly enforced should go a long way to improving the photo stock.
On the subject of keeping up with colour schemes I suggest (and have done so to the team) that photos in planefinder appear 'most recent first' rather than the current system which seems to give certain photographers priority over others. For example today I was looking at a BA flight, to see what the plane looks like now I had to wade through almost a dozen photos of the plane in old BMI colours. I also notice that the photos of some photographers, who haven't posted in years get preference over more recent and accurate photos.
Regards - Mick
Hi Mark, What about a link on each photo page for anyone to suggest an inappropriate photo or tag, I have noticed a number of mis-tagged photos of late.
Regards - Mick